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- Aug 30, 2022
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Didn't know GoFile has a download limit. Well, I added Pixeldrain download link in case anybody needs it.Only if they can get their paws on it. Download limit for the month already exceeded when I tried the link.
Also 0.2 update just dropped. Added hunger bar and also bathroom activities actually passes times.
If your committing to this might aswell create your own discussion page.
- Nov 23, 2024
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Did not mean to be a stickler/pain...just passing the information along to those who need to have it. Pixel drain also indicated 5.4 of 6GB of transfer, but only indicated it would slow downloads...not cut them off.
- Nov 15, 2023
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Isn't pixeldrain personal? Like you yourself get a 6GB limit, not the download itself? I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that was how it worked
- Aug 30, 2022
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- Nov 15, 2023
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Immediately i am a fan of the Hunger Bar, and as for all the states, I mean, im not sure how much affect most of them have on events, but yes. It does feel like there are too many. I mean I suppose they could play in to the different things you can do with cream when, but as the game stands, with the timeframe, it feels like too much for it to actually matter between exposure lust touch peep jerking on top of happiness and relationship. Ive only ever paid attention to RWC and if feels like that is the only one that matters.
- Dec 23, 2024
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...How you implemented this is a ton more elegant than the monstrosity I was going to code up.
Thank you for implementing it, I love it ^^
Personally, I've mainly felt that exposure and jerking off had too much overlap for it to be seperate stats. The others are quite distinct I feel, and can be used pretty well to decide which options should be available and how succesful certain options should be.
- Nov 15, 2023
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Do they actually make a difference in which options are available?
- Dec 23, 2024
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So for lust:
- If you take a shower, and Cream is a virgin, but you're not lustful enough, Cream won't have sex with you.
- If you play with dolls and use the Chao doll to grab her panties while not having enough lust / touch she kicks you in the face
- If you try to get her to suck you off as "food" in the kitchen she refuses.
- If she rides a bike with you in the mall and feels your erection while not having enough lust she jumps off.
- If you grind against her on the swing but she hasn't been naked yet or your lust is not high enough she jumps off
- If you take pictures of her while she rubs her panties and lust is high enough you can masturbate.
For Peep:
- You can take a look in the shower
- While she sits on the toilet
- Another toilet scene
- Peep at her in the mall
For jerking off:
- Jerk off while in the pool
- Jerk off while reading her a story
- Jerk off while she falls asleep watching a movie
Exposure opens up 8 variants, and touch 13.
You know I've always misunderstood lust? I thought it was how lustful sonic was, but apparently it's how lustful Cream is.
- Nov 23, 2024
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Well...I almost never use it (Either download source) only those stray times (like this) where I am downloading one specific thing from a source like this (and I definitely have not downloaded over 5 GB in less than a month)...and...the verbiage uses the term "account" indicating that there is a user/credential setup. I have never used credentials at any of these download sources...so the only way it could be user specific on the "client side" (Downloader as opposed to Uploader/person using the file store) would be something like IP tracking, which means I will never know what "my" limit is...because it is not mine but rather any of the possible proxies this setup uses, which others might be on the same IP for since they are not exclusive.(Between grabbing 0.2 and 0.2.1 the pixeldrain value went from 5.4 to 117 GB...and I have not touched it in between those times - though that does rule it out of being host side, unless you have a bunch of stuff including but not limited to this, that is being downloaded like mad...) So maybe...it really is...Not you...its "me."
I am sure your "monstrosity" was just fine. Monstrosities need love too. Besides...you were still doing it...making something, progressing, etc. which has value despite "a more elegant" solution. This one appreciates you both.
Definitely a quality of life upgrade (both the simple ring color change or the hunger bar.) While the information was always there, it was not a Hidden Stat (by opening the journal to look) that is inconvenient in the moment during game play while either of these are "at a glance."
This may be lead to another rabbit hole discussion...hang on to your ears...
I always figured they had some effect, but like Silvii said, I almost never paid attention to anything BUT RWC. Now...this is not a terrible thing, again..difference between hidden stats and having no clue why one run something works and another time it did not while the main stat RWC is the same or better, that differentiation is important.
However...Fluffins has outlined variables that they do affect...though I think (Maybe because of limited experience/not doing playthroughs just to find things out/not scouring the code to see what else is in there - correct me if I am wrong) the game is "truncated" in the effectiveness of using the stats (Not judging, all the time we have to consider how much it is to code and how much value is derived from what is put in that requires the code, and keeping in mind what the intent/what is meant ot be accomplished in the first place was). The game is not made to have full on sexual revolution paths for every possible predilection and that is okay. That would be a lot of work for what would likely just be a niche set of curious people to benefit, while most would likely stick to a vanilla route (Pun sort of intended.) If the intent was just to have enough variables that you could not just plow through the game on one stat alone, then it was successful and you have to replay to find those experiences you missed, even if there is overlap/barely used values. One goes down a rabbit hole of system designing to try and make the experience better for each niche because of those changes, which likely wasn't the core purpose of the game anyway. The game idea I have flirted with in. my head would be a nightmare from a coding standpoint because it would try to address "everything," as that would be part of the purpose.
Hmm. I never really analyzed them until now... however, Sonic is obviously as lustful as the person behind the keyboard (So in some of our cases, the counter does not go high enough)...Although...I can see why one could think the way you did...the other stats are "mixed." Touch can be ambiguous, in that touching or being touched could be measured by it. Jerking off is obviously a sonic value, as it occurs when he is touching himself, not at a time of manual stimulation by another, thus not a "Cream Stat." Peep is its own unique ball of wax, as if the purpose is to measure Cream liking being looked at (Ill call that cream exposure) it would be different than measuring Sonic's voyeuristic tendencies (Him looking whether she knows it or not). To use a quick example, at game start, you can toss her in the air and get peeping. She is focused on flying, and sonic takes a look. No indication that she is "aware" of being looked at, (Like fiddling with her dress embarrassed after you put her down, or something of the like) making it a "sonic stat." Also, you can "peep" in the room on demand, and not get peep but lust based on what she is doing, which is not intuitive to either without some indicator...like there could be/would be a distinct difference between peeping in and "catching her" changing dresses accidental, and sonic stubbing his toe and cream knowing she is being watched and"putting on a show." And of course, Moral Alignment appears to be a Sonic stat as you "are not such a bad guy" to steal a bikini top unless the moral stat is low enough, for instance...which has nothing to do with whether Cream is being "bad." Pretty sure there is more, but I am at risk of rambling and not sure how engaged anyone else is/may be...so...I will pause here for...
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- Aug 30, 2022
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You'd be suprise actually. Generally, that is true for most of the scenes. However, the Living Room's coding has quite the variation. Like for example, If you won the racing game, asked for a hug, then pull her closer and rub against her, this one has 5 variants:
1. No sexual activities at all
2. No sexual activities except for sex
3. Fondled Cream but no handjob or oral sex
4. Either Handjob from, blowjob from, or oral on Cream is true
5. If none of the above applies.
- Nov 15, 2023
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Though it might be those hidden stats that change some of the outcomes. Im almost certain one of the versions of BSC has a way of getting her dress off while playing with the dolls and getting her to accept it by also stripping off your own "armor" to make the fight fair, but I've yet to find that scene again and its based solely on a memory from playing years ago. So perhaps it is in the game but its the outcome of one of those stats and thats why I havent recreated it...Well...I almost never use it (Either download source) only those stray times (like this) where I am downloading one specific thing from a source like this (and I definitely have not downloaded over 5 GB in less than a month)...and...the verbiage uses the term "account" indicating that there is a user/credential setup. I have never used credentials at any of these download sources...so the only way it could be user specific on the "client side" (Downloader as opposed to Uploader/person using the file store) would be something like IP tracking, which means I will never know what "my" limit is...because it is not mine but rather any of the possible proxies this setup uses, which others might be on the same IP for since they are not exclusive.(Between grabbing 0.2 and 0.2.1 the pixeldrain value went from 5.4 to 117 GB...and I have not touched it in between those times - though that does rule it out of being host side, unless you have a bunch of stuff including but not limited to this, that is being downloaded like mad...) So maybe...it really is...Not you...its "me."
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I am sure your "monstrosity" was just fine. Monstrosities need love too. Besides...you were still doing it...making something, progressing, etc. which has value despite "a more elegant" solution. This one appreciates you both.
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Definitely a quality of life upgrade (both the simple ring color change or the hunger bar.) While the information was always there, it was not a Hidden Stat (by opening the journal to look) that is inconvenient in the moment during game play while either of these are "at a glance."
This may be lead to another rabbit hole discussion...hang on to your ears...
I always figured they had some effect, but like Silvii said, I almost never paid attention to anything BUT RWC. Now...this is not a terrible thing, again..difference between hidden stats and having no clue why one run something works and another time it did not while the main stat RWC is the same or better, that differentiation is important.
However...Fluffins has outlined variables that they do affect...though I think (Maybe because of limited experience/not doing playthroughs just to find things out/not scouring the code to see what else is in there - correct me if I am wrong) the game is "truncated" in the effectiveness of using the stats (Not judging, all the time we have to consider how much it is to code and how much value is derived from what is put in that requires the code, and keeping in mind what the intent/what is meant ot be accomplished in the first place was). The game is not made to have full on sexual revolution paths for every possible predilection and that is okay. That would be a lot of work for what would likely just be a niche set of curious people to benefit, while most would likely stick to a vanilla route (Pun sort of intended.) If the intent was just to have enough variables that you could not just plow through the game on one stat alone, then it was successful and you have to replay to find those experiences you missed, even if there is overlap/barely used values. One goes down a rabbit hole of system designing to try and make the experience better for each niche because of those changes, which likely wasn't the core purpose of the game anyway. The game idea I have flirted with in. my head would be a nightmare from a coding standpoint because it would try to address "everything," as that would be part of the purpose.
Hmm. I never really analyzed them until now... however, Sonic is obviously as lustful as the person behind the keyboard (So in some of our cases, the counter does not go high enough)...Although...I can see why one could think the way you did...the other stats are "mixed." Touch can be ambiguous, in that touching or being touched could be measured by it. Jerking off is obviously a sonic value, as it occurs when he is touching himself, not at a time of manual stimulation by another, thus not a "Cream Stat." Peep is its own unique ball of wax, as if the purpose is to measure Cream liking being looked at (Ill call that cream exposure) it would be different than measuring Sonic's voyeuristic tendencies (Him looking whether she knows it or not). To use a quick example, at game start, you can toss her in the air and get peeping. She is focused on flying, and sonic takes a look. No indication that she is "aware" of being looked at, (Like fiddling with her dress embarrassed after you put her down, or something of the like) making it a "sonic stat." Also, you can "peep" in the room on demand, and not get peep but lust based on what she is doing, which is not intuitive to either without some indicator...like there could be/would be a distinct difference between peeping in and "catching her" changing dresses accidental, and sonic stubbing his toe and cream knowing she is being watched and"putting on a show." And of course, Moral Alignment appears to be a Sonic stat as you "are not such a bad guy" to steal a bikini top unless the moral stat is low enough, for instance...which has nothing to do with whether Cream is being "bad." Pretty sure there is more, but I am at risk of rambling and not sure how engaged anyone else is/may be...so...I will pause here for...
My brain goes to (without knowing what it would take to code) a variable system with some randomness to make that whole Peep in the room dynamic different, almost a mini game...where you have more than one option for "Peeping in the room" with variable energy usage. 1E is the quickest with no sneaking, and high likelihood of being caught, 2E is a little sneaky with less likelihood, and 4E is very sneaky and low chance...(80%/50%/20% chance of getting caught for example) Thus, early game (or if you want to go a voyeur route,) you want to be as sneaky as possible because being caught before she's ready gets you in trouble, while if you have cultivated a cream exhibitionist route (Pretty sure it doesn't exist, I am working on several theoreticals here) then you would WANT to "be caught" so she knew she was being watched...but not a the first peep as none of the other variables would be where they need to be. Again...depends on what is meant to be accomplished with/by the game.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
- Aug 30, 2022
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Actually, you only need at least 350 RWC. Then just follow the path from...
Play dolls -> Take the hit and and fall in a dramatic performance -> Grin evilly and respond with a surprise counter attack -> Start grinding against her while keeping your grip loose -> Cream loses dress, and Sonic loses "armor"
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Hmm ill have to see then. I could just be playing the wrong version, or maybe my RWC wasn't high enough, though I thought it was. Thanks!
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That is more variable than I anticipated. Amusingly, handjob is something I do not recall ever seeing. I think I always got things further/done differently. Isn't there an achievement for footjob, though I have not the foggiest clue where how things would lead to that.
Your memory should not be wrong. I have high confidence I have
- Nov 15, 2023
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You know, I think the only handjob is when she accidentally places her hand on you and you let her continue (dont remember the exact spot this occurs...) though never saw the foot. I totally forgot the game had achievements. Maybe ill go through and actually try finding everything instead of just trying to breed the bunny...
- Feb 9, 2020
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Whooaah....
And there's me experimenting to do 'patches' - which incidentally I've recently been hacking away at the 'low energy/infinite phone calls' & 'time exceeds 23:00' bugs. I've even dabbled with a couple of 'concepts' - probably if you include something like this you can do better
1) I never liked the 'Cheats' menu being there from the start, so instead the player has to do 'tasks' to unlock certain cheats.
Not saying what those are but as a hint SOME require you spending rings
2) Never like the 'moral' stat either where it brought up 'bad' scenes, so attempted to reuse 'moral' to give better chances on some 'randomised' events - the higher your moral the better chance of getting certain random events to happen (eg meeting Amy in the park for example)
IF you want to try out my attempts - do the main patch first then add the concepts files and always remember BACKUP your original game first
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Oooooh exciting!!! Just to clarify, which version of the game is this patch for?
- Feb 9, 2020
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The same one on first post of this thread -
Babysitting Cream: BetaMix Edition [v0.3.5] [Novilon]
EDIT: ok not a lot has changed between Novilons & the remake that I can see,well there is but not with any tweaks I've done, so I've added my hack-&-slash fix for the time problems at home. THIS zip contains the same fixes for 'Infinite phone calls/no energy' and '23:00 day ends' (the remake seems to have its own fix for the mall) It's for Xaverion BSC-REMAKE version so back up your version before you try it out just in case
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