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Mar 10, 5:03 AM
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wtf is this bullshit! QJ isnt a machine? How can it die! Just fix it or rebuild it!
Mar 10, 5:08 AM
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I'm really hoping MAPPA sticks the landing here. I think they have a solid shot. I just hope they're not winging the plot. It feels like they're building towards something.

I kinda expect her to go back to reality with newfound wisdom and the ability to solve her problems. I just don't want it so basic. They can't let luke and the director bird go without some proper resolution. There needs to be some deeper meaning to the madness. What are they trying to tell us?? What was A Tale Of Pershing REALLY about?

Also... is this only going to be one season? with this pacing I am wondering if everything gets wrapped up and this is it.
mistatosrealbf said:
Also... is this only going to be one season? with this pacing I am wondering if everything gets wrapped up and this is it.

Yes! It's an original anime listed with 12 eps, so unless Zenshu turned out to be a big hit they aren't gonna think about 2nd Season and even if they do it prob will be about"Natsuko" as a Director after that Movie First Love been released
Mar 10, 5:25 AM

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OMG
Things are getting bleaker, and Luke was forced to see Natsuko and Unio sucked.

Arrgggh... Why do I feel the Shinseiki Evangelion's vibe?

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One of the best isek i've ever seen, but 12eps its to short
Mar 10, 6:25 AM
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I was worried that certain things the initial show was acknowledging in the beginning would not get brought back up. So Im actually glad Mappa isnt sticking the stereotypical plot at this show. I have no idea what direction the ending will go, which I kinda like.
Mar 10, 6:48 AM

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this just so goood episode
Mar 10, 8:25 AM
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Wait so all these people throwing random hoes rakes and shit can actually kill the voids? then wtf have they been doing this whole fucking time? Instead of just luke and the other heroes fighting the voids these lazy mfs could've helped a bit. Too scared to fight voids but can mob and go kill Natsuko who literally everyone can see summon giant monsters and shit fighting the voids. Dumb af these people lol. I mean I get it's going a certain way for the movie to end the way it did originally but worse maybe but still these mfs don't deserve the heroes honestly. Also those voidism people they got magic and shit too it looks like? why weren't they helping fight the voids?

Anyways now it looks like Unio and Natsuka died? They were inside that void but then the void died and they disappeared now what?
Mar 10, 9:17 AM

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Ungrateful peasants. If they had fought the voids so hard, they wouldn't need a hero.
Mar 10, 9:43 AM
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I think Natsuko is Dieing bcs of the main story and i think she has to die somehow. don't hate on me just saying what i thought and why i thought like this, is Luke needs CRASHOUT(like in main story) and almost end the world. And because he did more things than original story he might stop the crashout.
Mar 10, 9:43 AM
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Drink everytime they say "Natsuko"

lots of dialogue and exposition in this episode. the characters are basically mouthing the plot.
Mar 10, 9:45 AM
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kekotron said:
Bro 20 min went by in a flash

So true it felt like watching Solo leveling episode with 2x speed
Mar 10, 11:12 AM
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AAAAnnndd im back to disliking an episode from this show. Dont get me wrong, its kinda the same writing wise as other episodes in a way, basically decent ideas with not great execution. the thing is, this episode made something that i have always heavily disliked, and i always had a big bias agaisnt. Which is forced drama/tension. the villagers just having a switcharoo and just hating/wanting to kill natsuko literally makes no sense. Sure, the powers the enemies have now are the same as natsukos, but its been literally a single battle. It just doesnt make any sense for them to randomly start feeling as the world is completely doomed. Also, if QJ was the ever first hero to die, maybe, MAYBE i would have understood, because it would be a big change in people lives, but no. So many have already died, this really aint anything new. Like, dont get me wrong, im not saying that big events cant change the mind/opinion of the public, it obviously can and has happened through out history. But it needs to make sense!!! It just feels as though they wanted to mirror what happened in a tale of perishing anime without thinking how to really get to it in a natural manner. Again, this show just tries to throw around ideas without really thinking how to stich them together.
I will say, i doubt i will dislike the next few episodes as much as this one, as once more, this episode just does something that i just personally have a really big bias against, and i doubt the next few episodes will be like this.
@VP2003boi I agree with you partly, but not fully. The villagers' sudden resentment of Natsuko makes sense because the Voids resemble her drawings now, and since they don't understand how the Voids or her powers work, they fear her as an unknown. However, I agree that the shift back to the main A Tale of Perishing timeline is too strong. It should've been more gradually introduced over the past couple of episodes (maybe an extra scene or two concerning the villagers and their hesitation with accepting Natsuko, or a scene with Destiny mentioning money troubles?).

In my opinion, Zenshuu probably should've been adapted as a manga first with more content before being developed into an anime.

Mar 10, 11:50 AM
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somehow yall missed the scene where it showed that memmeln was actually summoning QJ and not the super void
Mar 10, 1:39 PM

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@VP2003boi I agree with you partly, but not fully. The villagers' sudden resentment of Natsuko makes sense because the Voids resemble her drawings now, and since they don't understand how the Voids or her powers work, they fear her as an unknown. However, I agree that the shift back to the main A Tale of Perishing timeline is too strong. It should've been more gradually introduced over the past couple of episodes (maybe an extra scene or two concerning the villagers and their hesitation with accepting Natsuko, or a scene with Destiny mentioning money troubles?).

In my opinion, Zenshuu probably should've been adapted as a manga first with more content before being developed into an anime.

@RomanRonin About the last point I will say that that is honestly in my opinion the biggest issue/challenge to overcome with originals because a lot of the time they only get investment for a single cour, which makes it harder for them to not feel rushed at times.
Mar 10, 1:40 PM

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peak peak peak. I was on the edge of my seat for the whole ep esp at the end. we are so back and im so curious about how they wrap this up in 2 episodes...
Mar 10, 6:22 PM
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VP2003boi said:
AAAAnnndd im back to disliking an episode from this show. Dont get me wrong, its kinda the same writing wise as other episodes in a way, basically decent ideas with not great execution. the thing is, this episode made something that i have always heavily disliked, and i always had a big bias agaisnt. Which is forced drama/tension. the villagers just having a switcharoo and just hating/wanting to kill natsuko literally makes no sense. Sure, the powers the enemies have now are the same as natsukos, but its been literally a single battle. It just doesnt make any sense for them to randomly start feeling as the world is completely doomed. Also, if QJ was the ever first hero to die, maybe, MAYBE i would have understood, because it would be a big change in people lives, but no. So many have already died, this really aint anything new. Like, dont get me wrong, im not saying that big events cant change the mind/opinion of the public, it obviously can and has happened through out history. But it needs to make sense!!! It just feels as though they wanted to mirror what happened in a tale of perishing anime without thinking how to really get to it in a natural manner. Again, this show just tries to throw around ideas without really thinking how to stich them together.
I will say, i doubt i will dislike the next few episodes as much as this one, as once more, this episode just does something that i just personally have a really big bias against, and i doubt the next few episodes will be like this.

I don’t know what you’re smoking, but the townspeople turning on Natsuko definitely made sense.

Like, even in our real world, it’s incredibly fast and easy for populists to rise up by blaming all their problems on immigrants. It’s happening in multiple countries all around the world; just look at how normal everyday Arabs are treated after a major terrorist attack. Scale it down to a town, and instead of an immigrant, it’s a literal complete unknown who claims to be from a place no one’s heard of, with more power than any of the nine soldiers combined. With her around, they do a complete 180, giving everyone hope that maybe they can pull through.

Then in the last battle, one that was far more damaging than they’ve had in a long time, with the death of one of the few remaining heroes, where the enemies are suddenly identical to Natsuko’s drawings? Even just this alone is completely believable motivation, but then throw in the void cultists spreading their beliefs that she’s their savior, and it’s almost a natural conclusion.
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Marinate1016 said:
Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Mar 10, 6:27 PM
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Timonk said:
somehow yall missed the scene where it showed that memmeln was actually summoning QJ and not the super void

Oh shit… I did miss this actually, thanks for the reminder. Tbf it was on screen for about 2 seconds and it only vaguely resembled QJ’s body. I just thought Memmeln was turning evil since the world is “reverting” to its previous state.
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Marinate1016 said:
Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Mar 10, 6:30 PM
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I’ve become pretty jaded about anime originals and their propensity to completely fumble the ending and ruin the whole show, but goddamn this show got me feeling hopeful again.

Peak if it can land the ending. I’m cautiously optimistic.
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Marinate1016 said:
Not reading allat cause I don’t care. Tensura peak. Have a good one tho
Mar 10, 7:26 PM

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It has become better starting last episode.
Mar 10, 10:29 PM
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She has now officially fricked the movie now.
Mar 10, 10:43 PM
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vete bien a la verga que pedo
Mar 10, 10:54 PM
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I definitely think that when natsuko will go in reality she will definitely make a remake of this movie and as QJ says she will give everyone happy ending 🥹😍 intersting story
Mar 11, 1:43 AM

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VP2003boi said:
AAAAnnndd im back to disliking an episode from this show. Dont get me wrong, its kinda the same writing wise as other episodes in a way, basically decent ideas with not great execution. the thing is, this episode made something that i have always heavily disliked, and i always had a big bias agaisnt. Which is forced drama/tension. the villagers just having a switcharoo and just hating/wanting to kill natsuko literally makes no sense. Sure, the powers the enemies have now are the same as natsukos, but its been literally a single battle. It just doesnt make any sense for them to randomly start feeling as the world is completely doomed. Also, if QJ was the ever first hero to die, maybe, MAYBE i would have understood, because it would be a big change in people lives, but no. So many have already died, this really aint anything new. Like, dont get me wrong, im not saying that big events cant change the mind/opinion of the public, it obviously can and has happened through out history. But it needs to make sense!!! It just feels as though they wanted to mirror what happened in a tale of perishing anime without thinking how to really get to it in a natural manner. Again, this show just tries to throw around ideas without really thinking how to stich them together.
I will say, i doubt i will dislike the next few episodes as much as this one, as once more, this episode just does something that i just personally have a really big bias against, and i doubt the next few episodes will be like this.

I don’t know what you’re smoking, but the townspeople turning on Natsuko definitely made sense.

Like, even in our real world, it’s incredibly fast and easy for populists to rise up by blaming all their problems on immigrants. It’s happening in multiple countries all around the world; just look at how normal everyday Arabs are treated after a major terrorist attack. Scale it down to a town, and instead of an immigrant, it’s a literal complete unknown who claims to be from a place no one’s heard of, with more power than any of the nine soldiers combined. With her around, they do a complete 180, giving everyone hope that maybe they can pull through.

Then in the last battle, one that was far more damaging than they’ve had in a long time, with the death of one of the few remaining heroes, where the enemies are suddenly identical to Natsuko’s drawings? Even just this alone is completely believable motivation, but then throw in the void cultists spreading their beliefs that she’s their savior, and it’s almost a natural conclusion.
@stevejawbs Again, i said that its a completely normal thing that has happened multiple times throughout history that the common folk {be it modern day or not} do a switcharoo, but my issue is that this episode just doesnt show that in a natural way. For example, the "way more damaging battle" is something they say it is, but dont show or makes much sense. Again, QJ is not the first hero to die, they have had multiple battles that have done this amount of damage. Second, the void creatures almost never are the same. Sure they are "ants" in the most basic sense, but almost every single battle in almost every single episode of this show, we fought a different type of void. them changing and adapting is quite literally their entire thing.
the only argument i can somewhat agree is that they look like natsukos drawings, but even then, like i said before, the whole thing about voids is them adapting. And hell, most villagers shouldnt even know what natsukos drawings even look like because most of the time the battles are outside the walls or in a private room {ep 3 wrestling for example}. And lets remember that this happened one single time!!. there is also the fact that the villagers went from "man, shes amazing" to "man im gonna kill her" in a couple days {maybe even a single day?}, with literally no inbetween. In the vast, vast majority of the cases through history, there is, at the very least, a certain period of time where people just criticize the innocent person/group, before ever taking absolute action. Its like going from a 2, to a 10 in a day. I think having more battles lost because of natsuko would make way more sense, as it would also allow for more time to have that transition between the love to hate relationship from the villagers, making it waaay more natural. Again, i can see the ideas, but the execution is just not there yet, a sadly common issue i have with the show.
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this isekai is bert than from the other 10/10
Mar 11, 8:18 AM
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Wow best episode so far, that's how you make an Isekai. I wish it will have a tragic ending.
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Wow best episode so far, that's how you make an Isekai. I wish it will have a tragic ending.
WilliamMinerva20 said:
I wish it will have a tragic ending.
This wouldn't have a tragic ending. Natsuko will fix the ending of that awful movie.
Mar 11, 9:18 AM
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WilliamMinerva20 said:
I wish it will have a tragic ending.
This wouldn't have a tragic ending. Natsuko will fix the ending of that awful movie.
@ZXEAN Yeah, the classic happy ending is more likely, but let me cope.
Mar 11, 5:48 PM
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@VP2003boi I agree with you partly, but not fully. The villagers' sudden resentment of Natsuko makes sense because the Voids resemble her drawings now, and since they don't understand how the Voids or her powers work, they fear her as an unknown. However, I agree that the shift back to the main A Tale of Perishing timeline is too strong. It should've been more gradually introduced over the past couple of episodes (maybe an extra scene or two concerning the villagers and their hesitation with accepting Natsuko, or a scene with Destiny mentioning money troubles?).

In my opinion, Zenshuu probably should've been adapted as a manga first with more content before being developed into an anime.

RomanRonin said:
However, I agree that the shift back to the main A Tale of Perishing timeline is too strong. It should've been more gradually introduced over the past couple of episodes

Well, the reason for the sudden change is cuz of Brid Director!! She wants to move the plot as fast as possible and fit it in movie (tale of perishing) time frame
Mar 11, 10:48 PM
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If you think about it, you know what's going to happen: the world in A Tale of Perishing is going to end, all the characters(especially Luke) are going to die, and Natsuko's going to wake up in a hospital room in the real world, where she's going to use her experiences with the Nine Soldiers(and her feelings for Luke) to finish the anime project she started on.
@tywhoppity thats been my theory from day 1, either that or we'll see whats on the otherside of the void
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What the heck is memelin doing again? Did she lie or get amnesia?
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Mar 12, 12:36 PM
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Timonk said:
somehow yall missed the scene where it showed that memmeln was actually summoning QJ and not the super void

Oh shit… I did miss this actually, thanks for the reminder. Tbf it was on screen for about 2 seconds and it only vaguely resembled QJ’s body. I just thought Memmeln was turning evil since the world is “reverting” to its previous state.
@stevejawbs the entire "repeat" was subtly different, like memmeln summoning QJ instead, also Natsuko was playing the role of the love interest and was supposed to get killed by the Void while saving that kid, but she didnt. Luke did not attempt to leave the City with his love interest. there was only a small famine, and the void cult was out in the open. Unio was also alive to save Natsuko, whereas QJ in his stead did not play a role at the end. Natsuko as Destiny did not need to be saved from anything, except maybe an angry mob. Destiny takes up a role that was not in the story before, and will probably play a role in the next 2 episodes. She also married while already having the orphanage, instead of marrying to build the orphanage
Mar 13, 1:42 AM
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Natsuko experiences a certified Remina moment.
Mar 13, 11:12 PM
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damn that's brutal. also the memmeln part is weird, the other characters have explanations for their actions, but she's kinda just doing something for... reasons.

I hope they turn this around, it'd be brutal for the entire series to be in vain
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With the adjustment in the storyline, QJ takes Unio's place to become the first of 4 Nine Soldiers sacrificed, and Natsuko's drawings are becoming more of a liability if the Voids are able to copy and exploit her drawings and lay waste to the Last Town. At this point, the townspeople have no hope of ever recovering from the losses, much less the rumours that Natsuko is adding to the list of casualties to try summoning the Ultimate Void. Even the Great Baobab confirms her suspicions, that nothing they do, will ever deviate from the design of the original movie.

With the Last Town becoming the beacon of all controversy because of the Voidism believers, the story has now become a lot worse than she could've imagined, spiteing chaos everywhere. And now, Natsuko is quickly taking Destiny's place, which her unfortunate reality of getting sucked into the Void of her own drawing alongside Unio, as much as Luke tries to play the mediator, fails on all regards.

How quickly has Natsuko turned from being the good guy, into a full-blown traitor. This is truly chaos, turning into a state of despair.
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@Marinate1016 idk to me but it looked like Memmelm wanted to put QJ back together again??? And bringing someone back from the dead would definitely be a forbidden art lol.
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it looked like Memmelm wanted to put QJ back together again??? And bringing someone back from the dead would definitely be a forbidden art lol.

Full Memmelm Alchemist...
(last city's major loooks like straight out of FMA, anyhow)
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i need that fucking bird dead
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If you think about it, you know what's going to happen: the world in A Tale of Perishing is going to end, all the characters(especially Luke) are going to die, and Natsuko's going to wake up in a hospital room in the real world, where she's going to use her experiences with the Nine Soldiers(and her feelings for Luke) to finish the anime project she started on.
@tywhoppity Something close to this seems likely, but it feels like there isn't enough time to wrap everything up. The show has had fast pacing, but I'm not ready for it to be over. I kinda also think she could figure out some way to change the world. Shes changed so maybe the world can as well by discovering the secret behind the voids. Maybe the voids and director have some sort of connection. Excited to see the next episode coming out soon.
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What a bunch of coward and morons. They don't have the courage to fight the monsters, but they have the courage to kill a woman.
Mar 17, 12:24 PM

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Wow, the bird director was right in that things would revert as much as they could to the original story even if QJ died instead of Unio. Regarding Natsuko, I wonder if she'll return to Luke's world to retry fixing things or if she'll just wake up in her world as I also think these experiences are for her to grow as a person and complete her current project.

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